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IslamOnline interviews openDemocracy

My pal and openDemocracy colleague Caspar Melville was interviewed in a live chat on in Qatar this afternoon. The topic was religion and democracy. You can read the whole thing here. But here's a morsel:

Q: "Religion is a threat to the world; democracy is the key for now...."

A: "Well Tom that's certainly a forthrightly expressed point of view - and one no doubt shared by others. Perhaps we could call it militant secularism. The problem for me is that it seems to me to come from precisely the same kind of place, or impulse, as any other militant, fundamentalist perspective. It proceeds from the sense that you have already made up you mind about the world, everyone else (hundreds of millions) are wrong, or ignorant, or have 'false consciousness'. It seems so odd that you have posted the message on Its as if you came here precisely to say that, not, as i would hope, to find out more engage in dialogue and try and challenge some of your own assumptions- which are always the ones which need to be challenged first.

"I think a bit of humility and listening, finding out and bothering to try and understand might make the difference here. Otherwise it's just your militant position against theirs, or whose got the biggest guns, which would be a shame."

March 7, 2005 in openDemocracy | Permalink


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On an Afghan website March 8 2005: wrote:

"This is ridiculous. Feminism IS EXTREMISM. Any as we can see in the world, anything in EXTREME is wrong and eventually proves itself to be COUNTERPRODUCTIVE.

Feminism in the US today has slowed down immensely. And amongst those in the 60's and 70's who were a part of the feminist movements, most regret it because it has set women back not forward. I remember working for the NY Times and they did an article on how former feminist women who are exec's in todays corporate world, regret it because today they are left without having the natural ability to create a family.

In the case of this persona A. Wadud, it is funny because she is followed only by a handful of peolpe. Even the Majority of Muslim women are against her and her movement which is acknowledged by them on their site. Her backing consists of all those who are out of the fold of Islam. And whomever supports her cause is themselves out of the fold of Islam. I am no authority on Islam but I do have enough knowledge to know that if someone disbelieves in any of the aspects of Aqeedah in Islam, they are non-believers. Also if someone disagrees and doens't accept anything from the Quran and Sunnah of the Prophet they are amongs the non-believers. They, A. Wadud and her group, have OPENLY declared this and still call themselves Muslims. I don't know who they are trying to fool. It's not for nothing that no MASJID is allowing her to do this. She has to go out and get a private gallery that has nothing to do with Islam to allow her to do this.

Also my response requires me to clarify a few points and fix a couple mistakes I made.

1- Amina Wadud is a true HERETIC of Islam and not of Islam. Why? Because

1. she rejects certain parts of the Quran as she has admitted. In specific she does not agree with "Cutting off of the hands" for punishment for thieves.

2- Aslo she has a philosophy through her books which is called "Saying NO to the Quran" as being one of the four aspects of her approach to interpretating the Quran.

3- She is for Homosexual marriages, something which in Islam the Prophet personally cursed those who engage in it, and as we all know the people of Lut who were destroyed because of it.

All these in itself go in TOTAL against the Quran itself and according to the Scholars constitutes her to be out of the fold of Islam. To deny, disapprove, or not accept even .0000000000000000001% of the Quran, makes you an UNBELIEVER in ISLAM.

Posted by: Caspar Henderson | 8 Mar 2005 11:11:59

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